Questions for the outgoing vendor, and how we take the marketing over

Shared with Subh for this call. Not for the outgoing vendor. Built for the Subh call, Tue 1 Sep 2026, 11:30 PT. Every number on this page is measured and says where it came from, and where a number cannot carry a conclusion the page says so.

The three things to leave this call with

  1. An agreed list of what CBC asks the outgoing vendor for, and who asks. Their offboarding opened 28 Aug and is being scheduled this week.
  2. Agreement that the ad accounts and automations transfer rather than lapse. This is the only irreversible item on the page.
  3. One named owner per service on Subh's tracker. That is Robin's own ask, and our five rows are already filled in and ready to hand back.

Not trying to leave with: a scope decision, a price, or anything about the vendor relationship. Those are Robin's.

Agenda · 60 minutes

MinItemPoint
10What the outgoing vendor actually runs Five email sends a month, Meta ads, Google ads. Itemised below. Agree the inventory before agreeing the asks.
15The ask list Six items. Rank by what stops existing at cutoff, not by what is interesting.
15The takeover plan What we can run on day one with nothing from them, what needs a handover, what nobody should rebuild.
10Owners on the tracker Our five rows are done. Walk his rows 30 to 34 and the two unowned ones.
10Open questions back to CBC Four, listed at the bottom. All are one-liners for Brandon.

1 · What the outgoing vendor actually runs

From their own five documents, in our hands since 21 July 2026, and from CBC's own CRM.

LineCost/moWhat it isWhat the data shows
Email blasts$4,000 Five sends a month: one CBC Ins, one Costco Quote B2B Large, three Costco Quote B2B Small UnmeasuredTheir tag shows 11 leads, 0 sales. Too few to judge either way.
Meta lead gen, remarketing, video$2,500 Facebook and Instagram lead campaigns plus remarketing Weakest119 tagged deals since Mar 2023, 0 sales. Largest sample of the three.
Paid ad management, Costco$800 Google Ads Thinnest14 Google click IDs all time. 1 sale ever.

$7,300 a month of the $10,800 CBC currently spends across all vendors.

Why "0 sales" does not mean "it does not work", and we must say so

At CBC's own email close rate of 1.54%, eleven leads are expected to produce 0.17 sales. The chance of seeing exactly zero, even if the channel works perfectly, is 84.3%. Zero is the single most likely outcome of eleven leads.

So the email line is unmeasured, not disproven. The Meta line is the strongest of the three claims and still only 15.7% likely to show zero by chance, which is suggestive and not conclusive.

Say this before anyone concludes the vendor failed. Telling CBC their vendor produced nothing would be a number that cannot carry the weight, and it is the same shape as the mistake that nearly cost the contract before.

The caveat that travels with every number on this page

About 86% of CBC's sold business carries no campaign tag at all. Every figure here is read off the remaining 14%.

Tags are also actively destroyed: on 1 Sep we measured our own test tag overwriting a real Meta lead's source, because the system keeps the last value written. Every count on this page is a floor, not a total.

1a · Everything we know they do, in one list

Confirmed from their own documents or from CBC's CRM. Anything not on this list, we do not know about, and Subh's question set is right to ask for the scope in their own words.

That is all we can evidence. Five lines, $7,300 a month.

1b · What Subh's question set adds, and what we can bring to each

His set asks for a great deal we had no visibility into. These are the items that are new to us, with whatever we have measured that bears on the answer. Not repeated from above.

Services we did not know existed

Risk items worth asking first, because they outlast the relationship

Three of his questions we can already partly answer

What his set asks for that we should make sure actually arrives

A full export of the campaign database - content, send dates, lists used, links included, for every campaign to date. This is the single most useful artifact on his sheet: it is the only thing that turns "11 leads, 0 sales" into a measurable statement.

Full historical performance - spend, leads and conversions by campaign, broken out separately for CBC Ins and Costco Quote. The split matters. Those two brands must never be blended, and a combined figure would be unusable.

The email and CRM platform name. We do not know what they send from. Until we do, the send logs cannot be matched to anything.

Lookalike seed lists. What the audiences were built from determines whether they are worth inheriting at all.

The full history of flagged issues, from both sides, not just the recent lead-routing problem.

2 · What we need from them Time-boxed

Their offboarding opened 28 Aug and is being scheduled this week. Ranked by what stops being recoverable soonest, not by what is most interesting.

#WhatWhy it cannot waitWho asks
1Meta ad account, custom audiences, pixel IrreversibleAudiences only rebuild by re-accumulating traffic. If the account lapses they are gone for good, whatever the campaigns were worth.CBC, as an offboarding term
2Google Ads account ownership IrreversibleAccount history and conversion data do not transfer after the fact.CBC
3Automation ownership (LeadsBridge, Zapier, Make) Silent failureAlready on Subh's own tracker as an access row. If these lapse at cutoff, lead flow into the CRM breaks with no error.CBC
4Send logs: sends, opens, clicks per campaign The only thing in existence that can settle whether their email works.CBC, not us
5The intent data source behind "in market intender" It is a purchased data feed. Replicating the channel means replicating the subscription, and nobody on our side knows the vendor or the cost.CBC
6Email creative and the recipient lists We hold the link structure. We do not hold the artwork or the audience.CBC

Items 1 to 3 are the ones to move today. They are the only three that cannot be recovered later at any price. Items 4 to 6 are recoverable or replaceable.

3 · How we take the marketing over

Phase 1 · Now, needs nothing from them

The five-send monthly cadence, in their exact structure, under our own tag. Built and generated: 65 tagged links across the five sends, every link pointed at a deep product page, each one separately tagged so a send is measurable slice by slice.

Needs only artwork and a list, which is item 6.

Phase 2 · On handover

Meta and Google, only once the accounts are in CBC's name. Do not rebuild either from scratch first: the measured return on both is close to nothing, and rebuilding buys a rerun of a result we already have.

Phase 3 · The part that is actually worth copying

Their tagging convention is 98.7% clean across 78 links, and every link carries its own slot name. Nobody has ever reported on that. Standing up slice-level reporting is a free win that costs one query and gives CBC something no vendor has given them: which part of an email earned the click.

What actually sells at CBC, and it is none of the three lines above

Measured across the whole tagged population on 31 Aug:

Costco referral page12,389
Costco site placements6,712
Their own site forms4,224
Email, all senders2,800

The Costco placement is the business. It is not the outgoing vendor's, it is not at risk from the offboarding, and if the instinct is to copy what works it points here first. The work there is protecting and measuring the placement, not rebuilding an email programme.

OpenAnd CBC's best-performing tagged email programme is not the outgoing vendor's either. A separate programme carries 1,620 records on a completely different naming convention, 162 times their volume, with 25 sales against their zero. Nobody on our side knows whose programme it is. That is the single highest-value question on this page.

1c · What one of their sends actually looks like

This is the machinery worth inheriting, and we already hold all of it. Nothing below needs asking them for.

SendLinksWhere the links go
CBC Ins11 Quote form, Small Group, Large Group, Medicare, Carrier Service Support, Mission/Vision/Values, plus header and footer logos
Costco Quote B2B Large15 Large Group, plus its AAS, BDP and Case Studies pages, and an Our Services block linking health, dental, vision and benefits administration separately
Costco Quote B2B Small ×313 each Small Group, Level Funded overview, and the medical, dental and vision summaries

Counts are from our generated kit and include the social and logo footers each send carries. 11 + 15 + (13 × 3) = 65.

Every link lands on a deep product page, never the homepage, and every link carries its own slot name so a single send is measurable slice by slice. Nine campaigns ran this way from Dec 2025 to Jul 2026.

The convention, in full, and the one rule we would change

utm_source who sent it · utm_medium the channel type · utm_campaign the send · utm_term the audience · utm_content the slot

The one change: the channel-type field must always say email and nothing else. Today CBC's largest single value in that field is a Costco web address, on 12,389 records, and "Facebook" sits there on another 13. Both are the same mistake: a place or a platform written where a channel type belongs. It makes the reporting compare things that are not comparable, and it is the one defect a convention actually prevents.

Our replacement kit is generated, not typed: 65 tagged links across the five sends, and the channel type is a constant in the generator so the defect cannot come back.

2a · What each ask actually unlocks, and what it costs to miss

AskWhat it unlocksCost of not getting it
Meta audiences + pixel Any future Meta spend starts warm instead of cold PermanentRebuilding means re-accumulating traffic over months, at CBC's expense
Google Ads account Conversion history, which is what the platform optimises against PermanentA new account starts with no learning at all
Automations Lead flow keeps working the day after cutoff SilentLeads stop arriving with no error anywhere. Nobody finds out until someone counts
Send logs Turns "11 leads, 0 sales" into a real measurement The email question stays permanently unanswerable
Campaign export Which content, which list, which links, per send No baseline. Every future send is measured against nothing
Intent data source Whether the channel can be replicated at all, and at what cost The targeting cannot be reproduced, only guessed at
Creative + lists Sending can resume immediately Rebuildable, but slowly, and the list is the harder half

3a · What we have already delivered The record

Relevant because owners are on the agenda, and because two of these rows are already marked done on the tracker.

4a · What is actually broken in the tagging today

Worth having in hand, because several of Subh's questions land here and the answers are already measured.

ProblemScaleWhat it means
Sold business with no campaign tag at all~86% The ceilingNo reporting work by anyone, ours or anyone else's, can ever attribute these. They need capture, not reporting
A web address in the channel-type field12,389 The single largest value. Makes a landing place look like a channel
Tag values nobody can decode938 Four short codes. Four words back from CBC decodes all of them
Malformed values56 A bare number and a date string sitting where a channel belongs
A platform name in the channel field13 "Facebook" and "Facebook,Facebook". Directly answers his naming question
Tags overwritten after the factseen live The system keeps the last value written. We watched a test tag overwrite a real lead's source on 1 Sep. Every count anywhere is a floor

5a · Sequencing, if the asks land

WhenWhatDepends on
This weekAd accounts and automations transferred or explicitly revokedCBC, as offboarding terms
This weekConfirm whether the BDR function and the outside-CMS forms exist at allThe discovery call
On handoverCampaign export and send logs land; the email question becomes answerableAsks 4 and 5
Day one afterFive-send cadence resumes on our tagging. The kit is already generatedCreative and a list
First monthSlice-level reporting live: which part of a send earned the click. Nobody has ever had thisNothing
First monthTagging convention published, with a check that rejects a malformed value at captureFour codes decoded by CBC
OngoingMonthly report of anything unmapped, with its denominator, so a new bad value surfaces within a month instead of accumulating silentlyNothing
How to read a number on this page, and why several of them refuse to conclude

Every figure states the population it came from. A count of records is not a count of deals, and a count of deals is not a count of sales. Where two measurements exist at different grains they are given separately rather than blended, because blending them produces a number that is true of nothing.

Where a number cannot support a conclusion, the page says so instead of rounding up to one. The email line is the clearest case: 0 sales from 11 leads is the single most likely outcome even of a channel working perfectly, so it is reported as unmeasured. That restraint is the whole reason the rest of the page can be trusted.

Nothing here is an estimate. Each figure was read from CBC's own CRM, from the vendor's own documents, or from the tracking instruments, on a dated pull.

4 · Owners on the tracker Ours are done

Robin's repeated ask is one documented owner per service. A row with two owners has none. Our five rows are filled in and ready to hand back, with an acceptance test on each: how we know the row is done, in a form that can be read rather than asserted.

Robin's asks, in her own words, and where each stands

"I need one documented owner per service." Addressed. Our rows carry a single owner and an acceptance test.

"The reporting is critical. Right now it is not working, so we cannot show proof of concept." The dashboard is live and behind a per-person sign-in; access mail is staged. The channel breakdown she has been asking for is now on it, with its coverage stated on the face of the card.

"How many sales came from this and paid ads, to reassess." Paid ads answered 5 Aug. The email half is drafted and waiting on Joseph.

She has asked for a price three times and never received one at the scope she asked. That, not the number, is the open item. Not for this call.

6 · Companion to Subh's question set, topic by topic

What we bring to each of his sections, so the call is not us listening. His questions stand as written; these are the answers we can already supply and the ones we most want heard.

General scope & relationship

We can evidence five service lines and no more (section 1a). The gap between that list and whatever they describe is itself the finding. Listen specifically for anything touching a website, a form, or a phone: those are capture surfaces, and a capture surface nobody told us about is invisible to every number on this page.

The question we would add: is anything being sent, run or managed under a CBC brand from an account that is not in CBC's name? That is the general form of every ask in section 2.

Team & process

Mostly theirs to answer. The one part that matters to us is who has been responsible for campaign link tagging, because the 30 Jul agenda put "assign one owner for campaign link management" in writing and it is not clear it ever happened. Their tagging is 98.7% clean, so somebody has been doing it carefully. Find out who, because that person's convention is the one being inherited.

Communication & reporting

Ask what the reports actually contained, not just their cadence and format. If leads or conversions were reported per campaign, those figures can be reconciled against CBC's own CRM, and any gap between the two is worth understanding before anyone draws a conclusion from either.

His question about the full history of flagged issues is the right shape. The recent lead-routing problem is unlikely to be the first.

Tracking & attribution: where we can answer, not just ask

Consistency of tagging: on the July sends, 78 links, 77 correct, one malformed. The bad one lost its channel and campaign into the source value. That is a good record and worth saying so.

Meta vs FB vs FB/IG: visible in CBC's data, not only in the ad account. The platform name is being written into the channel-type field on 13 records, against 61 distinct source values portal-wide.

How a Meta lead reaches HubSpot: we can describe the path from the source of CBC's own systems, including a condition on one funnel that skips the campaign tags entirely. That answer is ours to give.

The pixel question is the one to press. If a pixel was never firing on one of the two brands, that changes what the Meta numbers mean retrospectively, and it is checkable in minutes.

Campaign & performance history

The export is the single most valuable artifact on his sheet. Without it, "11 leads, 0 sales" stays unmeasurable in either direction, permanently.

Insist on the brand split. CBC Ins and Costco Quote must never be blended: they are different products with different funnels and different close rates, and a combined figure is true of neither. This is a standing rule on our side and it is not a preference.

When they name their best-performing campaigns, ask what data supports it and at what grain. Clicks and opens are not sales, and the gap between the two is where most channel arguments live.

Tools & methods, and the one legal question

TCPA consent language is the highest-consequence item on his sheet and the only one with a liability tail. If outbound calling or texting has been running on consent that does not support it, that exposure belongs to CBC and it does not end when the vendor does. Ask it early, while there is time on the clock.

Lookalike seeds determine whether the audiences are worth inheriting. An audience built from a list nobody can describe is not an asset.

The sending platform name is a prerequisite for every other email question. Until it is known, send logs cannot be matched to anything.

The handover checklist, and the three that are different from the rest

His eleven-item checklist is the right instrument and we would not change it. Three of them behave differently from the other eight, and the call should treat them differently:

Meta assets, Google Ads, and the automations are the only items that cannot be recovered later at any price. Everything else on his list can be reconstructed, slowly or expensively, if it is missed. These three cannot: audiences must be re-accumulated, ad account history does not transfer retroactively, and a lapsed automation stops lead flow with no error anywhere.

So if the call runs short, those three are what must be nailed down. The other eight can go in writing afterwards.

7 · Four questions that go back to CBC

  1. Who sends the other email programme? 1,620 records, 25 sales, owner unknown to us.
  2. What do these four tag values mean? Four short codes account for 938 of the 1,007 records our reporting cannot categorise. Four words back decodes all of them.
  3. The lead table's column list. Settles whether three tracking fields have anywhere to land.
  4. Confirm the automations transfer rather than lapse at cutoff. Same as ask 3 above.

Ground ruleNothing about a termination or a review is said to the outgoing vendor by us, and nothing on this page goes to them. The vendor conversation is CBC's to have, on CBC's timing.

Built 1 Sep 2026. Sources: the vendor's own five naming documents (21 Jul), CBC's CRM measured 31 Aug, the trace and coverage instruments, and Subh's tracker v0.0 (31 Aug).